bharat2008
08-09 09:49 AM
Hi all,
This discussion is very valuble for people like me deciding between living in Canada as PR vs H1B USA .We all know that salaries in USA are slightly better than Canada .But now the exchange rate is almost equal.
Salary:
Can a person with family(2 kids) survive in Canada with CAD 50,000 / year salary in a place like Toronto.? I heard in Canada you pay 13 % tax on anything you buy .Does 50 % of your income goes in taxes ?
HealthCare:
Also is the government sponsored health care good compared to USA .I mean do you have any wait to see specialists.Is healthcare comparable to USA .
Immigration:
In USA anyone can get a Greencard regardless of their qualifications and it depends how early you enter the GC queue.But looks like in Canada they value your educations and other qualifications.Can IT professionals (non-managers) apply for Canada PR without a job or canadian education?
Canadian Citizenship:
Many people want to get Canadian citizenship and return to USA with TN Visa .In future ,could USA put restrictions on this .?
Please share your thoughts .
Thankyou
This discussion is very valuble for people like me deciding between living in Canada as PR vs H1B USA .We all know that salaries in USA are slightly better than Canada .But now the exchange rate is almost equal.
Salary:
Can a person with family(2 kids) survive in Canada with CAD 50,000 / year salary in a place like Toronto.? I heard in Canada you pay 13 % tax on anything you buy .Does 50 % of your income goes in taxes ?
HealthCare:
Also is the government sponsored health care good compared to USA .I mean do you have any wait to see specialists.Is healthcare comparable to USA .
Immigration:
In USA anyone can get a Greencard regardless of their qualifications and it depends how early you enter the GC queue.But looks like in Canada they value your educations and other qualifications.Can IT professionals (non-managers) apply for Canada PR without a job or canadian education?
Canadian Citizenship:
Many people want to get Canadian citizenship and return to USA with TN Visa .In future ,could USA put restrictions on this .?
Please share your thoughts .
Thankyou
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gemini23
07-27 10:16 AM
I work for a fortune 50 company and my company hired fragomen , and they have been exceptional. They provided me with timely updates and answered all my questions. My 485 was submitted last week. I will recomment fragomen.
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xbohdpukc
02-12 09:17 AM
Actually abolishing the whole H1B thing is theonly way. Actually IV should actively start lobbying against any H1B increase. Then only there is a chance of of corp america supporting any GC reform.
IV should work on highlighting the H1B abuse that is going on, in the media
so that the whole H1B will become so radioactive they will be forced to scale down or reform the H1B.
H1B visa is the main reason for EB problems.
Nice...
"I am in. Now you can shut the freaking door on all those suckers who didn't manage to get in on time..."
No wonder that people start demanding to curb immigration right after getting their green cards.
IV should work on highlighting the H1B abuse that is going on, in the media
so that the whole H1B will become so radioactive they will be forced to scale down or reform the H1B.
H1B visa is the main reason for EB problems.
Nice...
"I am in. Now you can shut the freaking door on all those suckers who didn't manage to get in on time..."
No wonder that people start demanding to curb immigration right after getting their green cards.
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gg_ny
07-07 01:35 PM
Just curious, and thinking loud: if there is a limited and reduced number of H1B workers come in, in the long run the number of applicants for permanent residency will be shrinking too (at least EB category). To reduce EB GC applications, and preserve the americanness of the employee-pool, this seems to be a nice and covert trick, at least to me. Let few people come for 6 years, and so fewer may remain as GC holders. Maybe I am missing something here.
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hydguy1
05-13 12:56 AM
Hello everyone,
My brother's marriage has just been settled in India.I need to leave in 3 weeks and just applied for my AP today.I delayed renewing my AP due to financial reasons.Can someone please advise me the best way to expedite my AP as I really want to go the wedding.Thanks!
My brother's marriage has just been settled in India.I need to leave in 3 weeks and just applied for my AP today.I delayed renewing my AP due to financial reasons.Can someone please advise me the best way to expedite my AP as I really want to go the wedding.Thanks!
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Totoro
05-05 06:37 AM
I receive the standard IRS letter regarding stimulus rebate.
I took this letter and went to SSA office to apply for a SSN for my wife.
Point number 3 in ss-5 clearly says .....
"If you check "Legal Alien Not Allowed to Work," you must provide a document from a U.S. Federal, State, or local government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for the U.S. government benefit. NOTE: Not all U.S. State or local benefits are acceptable for non-work SSN purposes. Contact SSA to see if your reason qualifies.
If you check "Other," you must provide a document from the U.S. government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for a Federal benefit except for the number."
I believe that IRS letter should be treated as a sufficient reason for need of SSN. BUT THEY DIDN'T ENTERTAIN ANY OF THE FACTS AND DECLINED TO ACCEPT APPLICATION FOR SSN.
They cannot refuse to accept your application. Fill in the forms and send them in. They can deny your application and then you can appeal. If they refuse to accept the application, you have two options. You can contact your congressman and complain. You can file a discrimination complaint with the SSA ombudsman. Here is the discrimination form.
https://ssa.gov/online/ssa-437.pdf
Finally, if you believe you have been denied your rights because you are an immigrant, you can contact your local ACLU and ask them to represent your case. As a last resort, you can file a lawsuit at the federal district court. The filing fee for this is $350. However, I hope we are all doing this to exercise our rights rather than for the money. At least that is my motivation.
In my case, the first time I called, the person hung up on me. But I did not give up. I got them to accept the application and it is currently under reconsideration. I was also able to get a response from the Regional Office. So far they have not addressed any of the points I made in the original case as described in the OP. I expect they will continue to ignore their own laws and regulations, until I appeal this to an administrative judge, who will make a legal ruling.
BTW: All this costs you nothing but your time.
I took this letter and went to SSA office to apply for a SSN for my wife.
Point number 3 in ss-5 clearly says .....
"If you check "Legal Alien Not Allowed to Work," you must provide a document from a U.S. Federal, State, or local government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for the U.S. government benefit. NOTE: Not all U.S. State or local benefits are acceptable for non-work SSN purposes. Contact SSA to see if your reason qualifies.
If you check "Other," you must provide a document from the U.S. government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for a Federal benefit except for the number."
I believe that IRS letter should be treated as a sufficient reason for need of SSN. BUT THEY DIDN'T ENTERTAIN ANY OF THE FACTS AND DECLINED TO ACCEPT APPLICATION FOR SSN.
They cannot refuse to accept your application. Fill in the forms and send them in. They can deny your application and then you can appeal. If they refuse to accept the application, you have two options. You can contact your congressman and complain. You can file a discrimination complaint with the SSA ombudsman. Here is the discrimination form.
https://ssa.gov/online/ssa-437.pdf
Finally, if you believe you have been denied your rights because you are an immigrant, you can contact your local ACLU and ask them to represent your case. As a last resort, you can file a lawsuit at the federal district court. The filing fee for this is $350. However, I hope we are all doing this to exercise our rights rather than for the money. At least that is my motivation.
In my case, the first time I called, the person hung up on me. But I did not give up. I got them to accept the application and it is currently under reconsideration. I was also able to get a response from the Regional Office. So far they have not addressed any of the points I made in the original case as described in the OP. I expect they will continue to ignore their own laws and regulations, until I appeal this to an administrative judge, who will make a legal ruling.
BTW: All this costs you nothing but your time.
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mpsamant
07-19 11:28 PM
u can, if ur labor is current for july bulletin ...
For NIW you donot require labor.
For NIW you donot require labor.
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chanduv23
09-04 01:19 PM
To add to this.. Some will think that something good just going to happen since next year is election.. Not sure what makes them think that..
Some are extremely negative-- They will say doesn't matter what you guys do,nothing will happen.
Those with negative opinions - they do not do much in life too - most of these wake up late in morning, go to work, watch TV , lazy in weekends , play cards, chat on phone , always spend a lot of hours on the internet researching for some crappy deals on electronic goods - the time, if well spent is worth more than what they save on buying the item.
Though it is difficult to change their attitude - it is possible, we must be persistent in our effort.
Some are extremely negative-- They will say doesn't matter what you guys do,nothing will happen.
Those with negative opinions - they do not do much in life too - most of these wake up late in morning, go to work, watch TV , lazy in weekends , play cards, chat on phone , always spend a lot of hours on the internet researching for some crappy deals on electronic goods - the time, if well spent is worth more than what they save on buying the item.
Though it is difficult to change their attitude - it is possible, we must be persistent in our effort.
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kumar_77
04-27 10:27 PM
Just sent 50$ through pay pal
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Totoro
05-05 12:50 PM
I went to SSA office today and they did not accept the application. I had all the necessary paperwork such as SSA guidenace on Non-Work Purpose SSN, Letter from IRS (one that every taxpayer got informing about Economic Stumulus Package) and FAQ regarding Basic Eligibility and ITIN for Economic Stimulus Pakcage from IRS website.
They simply refused to accept the application. This is unacceptable as I do not think lawmakers envisaged such a situation when they announced plans for Economic Stimulus Package.
Of course it is unacceptable. They cannot refuse to accept an application. How can they review your case if they wont accept your application. That is a violation of your rights. The only reason they refused your application is that you are an immigrant. You can therefore file a discrimination complaint against them using the form I attached in my earlier post. Also, contact your congressman and/or senator. They usually have a constituency services department that handles cases like these. If you want to PM me, I can help you with the specifics.
They simply refused to accept the application. This is unacceptable as I do not think lawmakers envisaged such a situation when they announced plans for Economic Stimulus Package.
Of course it is unacceptable. They cannot refuse to accept an application. How can they review your case if they wont accept your application. That is a violation of your rights. The only reason they refused your application is that you are an immigrant. You can therefore file a discrimination complaint against them using the form I attached in my earlier post. Also, contact your congressman and/or senator. They usually have a constituency services department that handles cases like these. If you want to PM me, I can help you with the specifics.
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bkarnik
11-08 01:52 PM
Members:
Please cool down. I think enough has been said for and against the Ombudsman. I request the members to please post their views that are pertinent to the thread and ignore posts that they do not agree with. The hope is to keep the threads as civilized as possible. If members think a post is very rude or offensive please use the tools on the right hand side to report it to the moderators. Members can also express their displeasure by clicking on the balance icon and adding to the members reputation.
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Please cool down. I think enough has been said for and against the Ombudsman. I request the members to please post their views that are pertinent to the thread and ignore posts that they do not agree with. The hope is to keep the threads as civilized as possible. If members think a post is very rude or offensive please use the tools on the right hand side to report it to the moderators. Members can also express their displeasure by clicking on the balance icon and adding to the members reputation.
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rongch60
06-26 02:35 PM
I just called and was asked for names and comments. I told her my personal experience: came 10 years ago, worked 5 years, approved I-140 2 years ago, stuck in the queue, working as a scientist at Stanford University, and can not apply fund and have difficulty attending international conference. She asked the state I am from. I strongly urge TX members to call. It is very easy.
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go_gc_way
07-17 04:10 PM
Folks here in this country should ofcourse get their gc, but I do not seem to understand this labour substitution for other than technical reasons.
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needhelp!
03-04 09:56 PM
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is: http://download206.mediafire.com/xwcsdggj4yjg/blrmnntd10w/FOIA_USCISResponse.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?blrmnntd10w)
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
____________________________
Here is the original letter template sent to USCIS
FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications
John Doe,
200 Main Street,
Chicago,IL,60001
National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010
Dear FOIA officer,
Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed similar concern in Oct 08 bulletin.
“Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.”
This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) in the following categories sorted on a priority date basis from 2001.
EB-2 China & India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
EB-3 China, India, Mexico & Philippines & Rest of the World: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now
Thanks,
John Doe.
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ZeroComplexity
09-21 06:40 PM
I really admire that. I feel I missed out on all the satisfaction you get when you are proactive about something.
I was paranoid that all hell might break loose at work when I am gone. Nothing happened. I have to blame my paranoia.
Hey zerocomplexity & jay75:
We flew from Seattle on friday mrng at 5:30 am. Had a 5 hours lay over at LA. We wanted to be present & it was worth all the pains....
I was paranoid that all hell might break loose at work when I am gone. Nothing happened. I have to blame my paranoia.
Hey zerocomplexity & jay75:
We flew from Seattle on friday mrng at 5:30 am. Had a 5 hours lay over at LA. We wanted to be present & it was worth all the pains....
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SmSm
12-01 10:50 AM
Lets NOT do a hunger strike.
Think of something that is unique, gets media attention, something that has not been done, but conveys the message in a very subtle way and yet is very powerful and will create a lump in the throat.
Free math turoring, free SAT preperation classes, you get the idea....
Think of something that is unique, gets media attention, something that has not been done, but conveys the message in a very subtle way and yet is very powerful and will create a lump in the throat.
Free math turoring, free SAT preperation classes, you get the idea....
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okuzmin
06-08 12:12 AM
Yeah, that's true if you're a white male or an immigrant. The rest can easily get on welfare/social security. I've seen dozens of examples over my 5 years of being a landlord. Well, many low-skilled immigrants abuse the system as well. So, it's bullshit, Jack Nicholson: in this country millions of people just got it without busting their a$$es.
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04-25 06:49 PM
Contributed $50...and send $50 as recurring amount. If possible divert to this fund drive.
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mbartosik
09-25 12:36 PM
Mark, point taken but I do believe if we can raise some stink then we should. The Law firms need to realise that the country club memebership is coming at the cost of some poor sap stuck in the immigration rut and all he/ she needs is kind words and sound advice. I shall stop my ranting about Fragomen after this post.
On your other point about law firms participating. What makes you think they already do not have a member in the forums. If they read this good then the messeage has been sent across.
If approached in the right way there is a chance that big law firms will be helpful to us. The way to do this is politely, not raising a stink, with a credible number of their clients supporting us. The big law firms could act as a "force multiplier" to use a military term, only a small fraction of the community currently know about us, the big law firms and USCIS are the common connection for EB GC process, and USCIS is not about to email all their customers about us. With the right encouragement law firms might just help.
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
On your other point about law firms participating. What makes you think they already do not have a member in the forums. If they read this good then the messeage has been sent across.
If approached in the right way there is a chance that big law firms will be helpful to us. The way to do this is politely, not raising a stink, with a credible number of their clients supporting us. The big law firms could act as a "force multiplier" to use a military term, only a small fraction of the community currently know about us, the big law firms and USCIS are the common connection for EB GC process, and USCIS is not about to email all their customers about us. With the right encouragement law firms might just help.
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
gg_ny
07-10 08:45 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/10/immigration.military.ap/index.html
After reading the exchange of zoophilic and acrimonious emails this evening, it seemed like reading accounts of state assembly sessions back home. Well, we never miss a chance, do we? For a change, please read General Pace's testimony to the so called 'hearings' earlier today. Contrary to the visible and glaring episodes that stand out in our day today life being targetted upon as immigrants or wannabies, posmd's words are solemn and should encourage us not to lose hope: "If you notice, despite all the bad press about illegals, despite 9/11, the majority of americans are still pro legal immigrants, we are largely to credit for this, along with the pride they have in their forefathers who made the same journey". General Pace's testimony today is a sample supporting the above. Ghost, it was nice of you apologize for your 'list-rage'; hopefully, whatever be the intentions, ForeverGC will learn to see the spirit
that keeps us going, at least before he or she gets the green card ;-)
After reading the exchange of zoophilic and acrimonious emails this evening, it seemed like reading accounts of state assembly sessions back home. Well, we never miss a chance, do we? For a change, please read General Pace's testimony to the so called 'hearings' earlier today. Contrary to the visible and glaring episodes that stand out in our day today life being targetted upon as immigrants or wannabies, posmd's words are solemn and should encourage us not to lose hope: "If you notice, despite all the bad press about illegals, despite 9/11, the majority of americans are still pro legal immigrants, we are largely to credit for this, along with the pride they have in their forefathers who made the same journey". General Pace's testimony today is a sample supporting the above. Ghost, it was nice of you apologize for your 'list-rage'; hopefully, whatever be the intentions, ForeverGC will learn to see the spirit
that keeps us going, at least before he or she gets the green card ;-)
chanduv23
06-12 03:37 PM
Commercial airlines fly between 25,000 ft and 40,000 ft. Airlines generally take risks for profits. I know it. Some airlines like United are ultra sensitive to turbulence. Some fly right through turbulence. And sometimes I feel some pilots are plain incompetent, they have no control over aircraft during the storm.
I have personally taken 500+ flights, almost 2 every week. And I can say, I get really nervous when turbulence or strong clouds are present. You are one second away from the big jolt or swing. A lot of times, it has been a roller coaster like ride. Now I would enjoy that once in a while. Sometimes I have seen big aircrafts like Boeing 757-300 series, flex, you see forward portion of aircraft going up and tail portion going down. But its required so that aircraft does not split up mid air. It can be a nasty thing for someone seated in the rear. Always always wear seat belt during turbulence, if it gets severe, you will hit the head on the ceiling. The turbulence during take off and landing is usually more risky as aircraft is closer to ground and can not afford to lose altitude. If it is at a higher altitude, aircraft can lose some altitude, due to "air pockets" and still be ok.
I was in a travel job earlier and I have faced all sorts of similar issues. There was this AA pilot onroute from ATL to ORD who once announced that thunderstorms are on the route and he took a different route claiming he had enough fuel and if not he will land in St. Louis foor refuelling, but he never had to.
I guess such decisions depend a lot on Pilots and their confidence and experience.
I have personally taken 500+ flights, almost 2 every week. And I can say, I get really nervous when turbulence or strong clouds are present. You are one second away from the big jolt or swing. A lot of times, it has been a roller coaster like ride. Now I would enjoy that once in a while. Sometimes I have seen big aircrafts like Boeing 757-300 series, flex, you see forward portion of aircraft going up and tail portion going down. But its required so that aircraft does not split up mid air. It can be a nasty thing for someone seated in the rear. Always always wear seat belt during turbulence, if it gets severe, you will hit the head on the ceiling. The turbulence during take off and landing is usually more risky as aircraft is closer to ground and can not afford to lose altitude. If it is at a higher altitude, aircraft can lose some altitude, due to "air pockets" and still be ok.
I was in a travel job earlier and I have faced all sorts of similar issues. There was this AA pilot onroute from ATL to ORD who once announced that thunderstorms are on the route and he took a different route claiming he had enough fuel and if not he will land in St. Louis foor refuelling, but he never had to.
I guess such decisions depend a lot on Pilots and their confidence and experience.
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