achiever2001
07-20 03:05 PM
Guys,
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
So what are trying to prove ? Generally i dont respond but this just shows that you have a lot of time. Why dampen people's spirits by such post or why try to say that whatever IV has done is a waste. That is what i get from what you have posted. If you are cynical, keep it to your own self, dont start such negative threads. Dont know you and this is not a personal attack but think twice before you create such posts, because they are disheartening for many (including me) who are so frustrated that they can believe any thing negative. Chill out and let us enjoy the moment why we have it, if things change over the period, we are fighters, we will survive but dont add to our problems by your predictions and logic (which might be right to start with but do we tell cancer patients that they are going to die on such and such date).
No offence intended but cool off.
The calculations below is not to scare anyone but it may very well a reality. Based on the assumptions below, some people may have to wait up to 20 months to get a EAD card: Ouch!
A Total I-485 Applicants: 750000 Applicants
B Each EAD processing time: 5 Minutes
C Total processing hrs: 62500 Hours
(Calculations: AxB/60)
D Daily productive Hours: 5 Hours
(It is a government body!)
E Total Man Days (Business Days): 12500 Man Days
(Calculations: C/D)
F EAD Workforce: 30 People
G Total Business Days: 417 Days
(Calculations: E/F)
H Average Business Days in a month: 21 Days
I Total Clearing Time : 20 Months
(Calculations: G/I)
So what are trying to prove ? Generally i dont respond but this just shows that you have a lot of time. Why dampen people's spirits by such post or why try to say that whatever IV has done is a waste. That is what i get from what you have posted. If you are cynical, keep it to your own self, dont start such negative threads. Dont know you and this is not a personal attack but think twice before you create such posts, because they are disheartening for many (including me) who are so frustrated that they can believe any thing negative. Chill out and let us enjoy the moment why we have it, if things change over the period, we are fighters, we will survive but dont add to our problems by your predictions and logic (which might be right to start with but do we tell cancer patients that they are going to die on such and such date).
No offence intended but cool off.
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jcrajput
09-11 05:17 PM
To my understanding....USICIS should out source some of there work (mostly setting up PDs) to India...
mpadapa
06-10 12:04 PM
Yes there was an organization just like IV which was instrumental in getting the AC21 provision. I just don't recollect the name probably IV core folks can provide more details.
Those time were different economy was booming and the anti-immigrants orgs esp against legal folks were non existent. Moreover EB folks had big uncertainty after 6yr clock on H1 expires. But now it is different, EB folks are busy tracking receipts and are happy with EAD and AP. SO who cares about rallying for a bill/amendment?
Visa numbers have been recaptured in the past (year 2000, I think).
Do we know more details on how this happened? Who worked for this and what did they do to make their efforts successful?
Same with the AC21 provision that allows changing jobs after 180 days. That is a huge accomplishment for whoever worked to make it happen.
Perhaps we can borrow some of their wisdom.
Those time were different economy was booming and the anti-immigrants orgs esp against legal folks were non existent. Moreover EB folks had big uncertainty after 6yr clock on H1 expires. But now it is different, EB folks are busy tracking receipts and are happy with EAD and AP. SO who cares about rallying for a bill/amendment?
Visa numbers have been recaptured in the past (year 2000, I think).
Do we know more details on how this happened? Who worked for this and what did they do to make their efforts successful?
Same with the AC21 provision that allows changing jobs after 180 days. That is a huge accomplishment for whoever worked to make it happen.
Perhaps we can borrow some of their wisdom.
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07-24 08:05 PM
If somebody is sending this letter, please do not send it without taking care of word-suggested corrections. There are too many green lines, most of the times because of spacing between two words.
OP - My intention is not to offend you but to point out the need for improvement in the document.
OP - My intention is not to offend you but to point out the need for improvement in the document.
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vparam
09-30 11:14 AM
This is an excellent thread. It's something I've been looking for for a long time. I am still not clear about using AC21. Here's my situation.
July 2nd filer. Received EAD for me (primary) and my spouse. Waiting for I140 approval. I understand it's risky to invoke AC21 before I140 approval. After I get it approved, here's what I intend to do.
1. Inc a business in my spouse's name.
2. Invoke AC21 and join my spouse's company as a "Software Engineer" (my position in LCA)
If I do this, during I485 adjudication, all I need is an offer letter from my spouse company saying that I am working as a Software Engineer right?
Also, does USCIS care during I485 adjudication whether I got paid continously while employed with my spouse's company?
If for any reason, I decide to quit my spouse's company before I485 adjudication and move to a different company, Will I be able to do this?
yes, you should be able to jump as many organization as you like...
July 2nd filer. Received EAD for me (primary) and my spouse. Waiting for I140 approval. I understand it's risky to invoke AC21 before I140 approval. After I get it approved, here's what I intend to do.
1. Inc a business in my spouse's name.
2. Invoke AC21 and join my spouse's company as a "Software Engineer" (my position in LCA)
If I do this, during I485 adjudication, all I need is an offer letter from my spouse company saying that I am working as a Software Engineer right?
Also, does USCIS care during I485 adjudication whether I got paid continously while employed with my spouse's company?
If for any reason, I decide to quit my spouse's company before I485 adjudication and move to a different company, Will I be able to do this?
yes, you should be able to jump as many organization as you like...
xyzgc
09-06 01:50 PM
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
I don't think these arguments about smartness vs luck are going to help anyone.
If EB3-I folks feel that they are stuck too long and getting green is a very high priority item, they would want to move/port to EB2. A lot of people have EB2 portability with the approved 140 and all but many have chose not to go this route for various reasons.
Is that being smart or stupid?
Some people feel they don't want to change their jobs and set their careers back. Others are just plain inertial. Still others feel its risky jumping through all the hoops all over again.
I think if you are just being inertial you are being more stupid than smart but other than that its a matter of choice.
The visa retrogression relief will happen when it happens. IV's organized efforts can't be blamed.
If we don't fight, we will not even have a fighting chance.You join IV's organized effort but don't just stop doing your own thing. As pointed out by others, individual decisions are also important and will probably make more difference to you as an individual than the collective community.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
I don't think these arguments about smartness vs luck are going to help anyone.
If EB3-I folks feel that they are stuck too long and getting green is a very high priority item, they would want to move/port to EB2. A lot of people have EB2 portability with the approved 140 and all but many have chose not to go this route for various reasons.
Is that being smart or stupid?
Some people feel they don't want to change their jobs and set their careers back. Others are just plain inertial. Still others feel its risky jumping through all the hoops all over again.
I think if you are just being inertial you are being more stupid than smart but other than that its a matter of choice.
The visa retrogression relief will happen when it happens. IV's organized efforts can't be blamed.
If we don't fight, we will not even have a fighting chance.You join IV's organized effort but don't just stop doing your own thing. As pointed out by others, individual decisions are also important and will probably make more difference to you as an individual than the collective community.
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coopheal
07-11 10:00 AM
Congrates EB2.
Hope 2008-2009 is better for EB3
Hope 2008-2009 is better for EB3
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bitzbytz
07-20 04:05 PM
If I am first in the list, base don the claculation, I will get it in 5 minutes,Thats true, the last person will have to wait for 20 months:)
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nlssubbu
07-25 01:29 PM
priti8888
Visa Allotment or Assigning of Visas by USCIS - I cannot digest the assumption that USCIS/DOS/DOL are fools and there is no coordination among them to know who from which country has applied for GC under which category. These Govt. agencies are so efficient that they can even go through these forums and connect IDs here to applications. It is a piece of cake for them to find out the entire background of an applicant as soon as even the LC is filed. They very well know who is stuck with which employer in which state and what stage and to whom they are approving the GCs. If the employers are Americans, they can even call the DOL and ask them to hold the LC approval because they know that once their employees get their GCs they will quit them.
I am not trying to be negative and pessimistic, but please think about the chances of immigrants sueing these Govt. agencies during any of the stages in GC process and winning the lawsuit. And ofcourse, the immigration lawyers are too happy with the retrogressions and the way the immigration system works in this country.
Hi,
This issue was discussed in detail in Ombudsman report in 2006. Please look from page 29 which gives detail description of the inability to give accurate numbers and communicate effectively between USCIS and DOS.
It clearly states that DOS was unable to determin exact numbers and could not co-ordinate with DOL / USCIS regarding cut-off date, by country numbers and also the total number of cards issued resulting in not all allocated numbers are approved as well.
Thanks
Visa Allotment or Assigning of Visas by USCIS - I cannot digest the assumption that USCIS/DOS/DOL are fools and there is no coordination among them to know who from which country has applied for GC under which category. These Govt. agencies are so efficient that they can even go through these forums and connect IDs here to applications. It is a piece of cake for them to find out the entire background of an applicant as soon as even the LC is filed. They very well know who is stuck with which employer in which state and what stage and to whom they are approving the GCs. If the employers are Americans, they can even call the DOL and ask them to hold the LC approval because they know that once their employees get their GCs they will quit them.
I am not trying to be negative and pessimistic, but please think about the chances of immigrants sueing these Govt. agencies during any of the stages in GC process and winning the lawsuit. And ofcourse, the immigration lawyers are too happy with the retrogressions and the way the immigration system works in this country.
Hi,
This issue was discussed in detail in Ombudsman report in 2006. Please look from page 29 which gives detail description of the inability to give accurate numbers and communicate effectively between USCIS and DOS.
It clearly states that DOS was unable to determin exact numbers and could not co-ordinate with DOL / USCIS regarding cut-off date, by country numbers and also the total number of cards issued resulting in not all allocated numbers are approved as well.
Thanks
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makemygc
08-02 04:03 PM
I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
Any updates for TSC who sent their applications to NSC??
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
Any updates for TSC who sent their applications to NSC??
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Green.Tech
06-17 09:27 AM
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ashutrip
06-20 10:49 AM
Delays at DOL PERM Processing Center in Atlanta to End Soon!
Posted May 11, 2007
�MurthyDotCom
A number of inquiries have come to us regarding delays in PERM labor certification case adjudication. Beginning early in 2007, there has been a noticeable slowing in case processing at the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Atlanta Processing Center. This center is one of two locations where PERM labor certifications are adjudicated. The other location is in Chicago. This slow-down is a marked change from the generally fast PERM labor certification decisions that had become the norm.
�MurthyDotCom
Personnel Reassigned to H2B Cases
�MurthyDotCom
We at the Murthy Law Firm made inquiry about this matter, to gain some insight into why things had changed, and, of course, to determine how the situation might be improved. We were advised that personnel temporarily had been reallocated away from the PERM cases. The Atlanta Processing Center also processes temporary labor certifications needed in H2B cases. Due to demand and time constraints, personnel were diverted to work on the temporary labor certifications, which meant delays in the PERM labor certifications.
�MurthyDotCom
Changes Expected in the Near Future
�MurthyDotCom
Our sources indicate that the DOL adjudicators in Atlanta will be moved back to their regular responsibilities of processing PERM cases in the near future. Thus, PERM cases there should start moving again soon.
may 11 was five weeks back......its third week of june right now!!!
Still no favorable movements...I do not wanna miss this July deadline....I am sure dates for EB3 will retrogress in August.....then ticket to India and UAE!!
Americas loss will be UAE's gain
Posted May 11, 2007
�MurthyDotCom
A number of inquiries have come to us regarding delays in PERM labor certification case adjudication. Beginning early in 2007, there has been a noticeable slowing in case processing at the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Atlanta Processing Center. This center is one of two locations where PERM labor certifications are adjudicated. The other location is in Chicago. This slow-down is a marked change from the generally fast PERM labor certification decisions that had become the norm.
�MurthyDotCom
Personnel Reassigned to H2B Cases
�MurthyDotCom
We at the Murthy Law Firm made inquiry about this matter, to gain some insight into why things had changed, and, of course, to determine how the situation might be improved. We were advised that personnel temporarily had been reallocated away from the PERM cases. The Atlanta Processing Center also processes temporary labor certifications needed in H2B cases. Due to demand and time constraints, personnel were diverted to work on the temporary labor certifications, which meant delays in the PERM labor certifications.
�MurthyDotCom
Changes Expected in the Near Future
�MurthyDotCom
Our sources indicate that the DOL adjudicators in Atlanta will be moved back to their regular responsibilities of processing PERM cases in the near future. Thus, PERM cases there should start moving again soon.
may 11 was five weeks back......its third week of june right now!!!
Still no favorable movements...I do not wanna miss this July deadline....I am sure dates for EB3 will retrogress in August.....then ticket to India and UAE!!
Americas loss will be UAE's gain
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she81
04-30 02:14 PM
At the end of July. I'm not aware of National processing centers. Are there still labor applications stuck there?
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Winner
07-06 11:47 AM
Not that I say we need change, but this is a public organization. Everyone has a right to call for election. There is nothing wrong.
Only issue is, whoever wants to contest has to come out with public profile as mentioned by someone before. There are only few people who are openly public and with known real identity on this forum - thats sad!
I am surprised to see that IV has 450K asset! Where did that number come from?
Ever been a member of a public radio station? to vote or contest in an election you have to be a paid member. Do you think N**usa will entertain you if you go to their website and call for change?
Only issue is, whoever wants to contest has to come out with public profile as mentioned by someone before. There are only few people who are openly public and with known real identity on this forum - thats sad!
I am surprised to see that IV has 450K asset! Where did that number come from?
Ever been a member of a public radio station? to vote or contest in an election you have to be a paid member. Do you think N**usa will entertain you if you go to their website and call for change?
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supers789
12-10 06:54 PM
I left old job 10 months before July 07. But attorney at new employer did mistake with advertisement, and PERM got rejected. Applied again, and USCIS audited all Fragomen cases, so mine stuck there attorney being Fragomen. By then July 07 was gone. In Sept 08 again my PD (Nov 05) was current but I was stuck with Audit.... Finally I got PERM approved, 140 approved, but since then NOV 05 is far far away....
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psaxena
06-11 01:15 PM
Did you ever hear the proverb "quitters never win" and winners never quit.
Quit here go to Canada and then face some problems there and then quit canada. And then you will become the rolling stone which gathers no mass. Your family will be sick of your shifting then and no stabilization will cause more issues.
A friend of mine told me this one evening when I was really frustrated and was planning to quit my dream on being an entrepreneur and here I am now, and I think where I am right now is for the reason that I didn't quit that day and finally my product was liked by a company and they bought the product and offered me a job as well and then one thing lead to another and now I am settled with what I always wanted to do ( kinda not 100%) but its ok.
Instead of ruining our life running after GC, here are few options
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
Quit here go to Canada and then face some problems there and then quit canada. And then you will become the rolling stone which gathers no mass. Your family will be sick of your shifting then and no stabilization will cause more issues.
A friend of mine told me this one evening when I was really frustrated and was planning to quit my dream on being an entrepreneur and here I am now, and I think where I am right now is for the reason that I didn't quit that day and finally my product was liked by a company and they bought the product and offered me a job as well and then one thing lead to another and now I am settled with what I always wanted to do ( kinda not 100%) but its ok.
Instead of ruining our life running after GC, here are few options
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
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03-04 12:04 PM
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Milind123
09-16 09:37 PM
gimmeliberty, srinivas_o, x1050us, PKV4voice thank you so much. I was out for about a couple of hours and when I came back I saw all these contributions lined up. I cannot express the feeling I got. I was totally overwhelmed. After yesterday’s round, which took about 24 hours to close (estimation, I didn’t check), I was worried if we will be able to finish this round. But I am certain now that we will finish this round successfully. Of course, we will, if we have motivated people like you.
11 - 4 7 more shots to be fired.
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bsbawa10
09-11 08:48 PM
Dear Freinds,
USCIS has proven again that they cannot calculate or count. Don't you think they should be presented with this calculator to help them calculate.
http://www.amazon.com/REALLY-CALCULATOR-AUTO-OFF-RUBBER-KEYPAD/dp/B000QOJYWA/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1221162014&sr=8-1
Also DOS has a knack for turning back the clock, don't you think they are in need of this clock.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Science-Surplus-BACKWARDS-RUNNING/dp/B000KDYQFM
What is your opinion?
My opinion is that USCIS does not deserve flowers or calculators. I am in a big favour of sending letters to them and to congress men with some information about what USCIS has been doing. I am also in favour of sending some pamphlets. I have already prepared some. Please see.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=288175&postcount=33
USCIS has proven again that they cannot calculate or count. Don't you think they should be presented with this calculator to help them calculate.
http://www.amazon.com/REALLY-CALCULATOR-AUTO-OFF-RUBBER-KEYPAD/dp/B000QOJYWA/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1221162014&sr=8-1
Also DOS has a knack for turning back the clock, don't you think they are in need of this clock.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Science-Surplus-BACKWARDS-RUNNING/dp/B000KDYQFM
What is your opinion?
My opinion is that USCIS does not deserve flowers or calculators. I am in a big favour of sending letters to them and to congress men with some information about what USCIS has been doing. I am also in favour of sending some pamphlets. I have already prepared some. Please see.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=288175&postcount=33
h1techSlave
04-12 12:05 PM
I think the advantage of LLC against Sole Prop is about liability.
If some one sues your business, LLC offers you protection, but Sole prop. may not.
If you are on EAD, you can start the business in your wife's name. Now the risk is that she will run away and take the business with her; can't say that would really be a bad thing.
S-corp is much more complex compared to LLC.
If some one sues your business, LLC offers you protection, but Sole prop. may not.
If you are on EAD, you can start the business in your wife's name. Now the risk is that she will run away and take the business with her; can't say that would really be a bad thing.
S-corp is much more complex compared to LLC.
Macaca
09-14 03:13 PM
Employers Oppose Hiring Provisions in Immigration Bill (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=75395&postcount=37) By Krissah Williams (williamsk@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writer, June 3, 2007
Top Talent Could Lose Fast Track to U.S. Under Bill, Foreign Luminaries Would No Longer Skip Immigration Line (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=72488&postcount=1169) By Anthony Faiola (faiolaa@washpost.com) and Robin Shulman (shulmanr@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writers, May 26, 2007
A Self-Inflicted Wound (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=52210&postcount=308) The U.S. is blocking the best and brightest immigrants Editorial (ombudsman@washpost.com, national@washpost.com, marmerg@washpost.com) March 12, 2007
Top Talent Could Lose Fast Track to U.S. Under Bill, Foreign Luminaries Would No Longer Skip Immigration Line (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=72488&postcount=1169) By Anthony Faiola (faiolaa@washpost.com) and Robin Shulman (shulmanr@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writers, May 26, 2007
A Self-Inflicted Wound (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=52210&postcount=308) The U.S. is blocking the best and brightest immigrants Editorial (ombudsman@washpost.com, national@washpost.com, marmerg@washpost.com) March 12, 2007
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