houston2005
06-10 09:36 AM
Senator Hilary Clinton introduced an amendment to exempt apllicant's dependents from visa quotos, which will reduce the retrogression signifcantly, why Core choose the Coryn's not supporting Hilary Clinton's? She is very likly to be our future president.
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
Her amendment realted to FB based and not to EB based.
PS: I am not from IV core
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chanduv23
09-25 06:27 AM
Take it easy for the time being - IV is looking into what to do next. Use this time to stabilize state chapters , conduct social events so that people can have a nice time.
senthil1
05-30 07:47 PM
Because of unlimited H1b entire bill may be voted down if taken for consideration. It will be big surprise if any bill passes with unlimited H1b or GC in any category.
I don't understand the risk you are mentioning. How unlimited H1B is going to cause problem in eliminating retrogression in EB catagories?
I don't understand the risk you are mentioning. How unlimited H1B is going to cause problem in eliminating retrogression in EB catagories?
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amitjoey
05-31 04:41 PM
http://senate.legis.state.la.us/Documents/Rules/Chapter11.htm
Rule 11.1. Statement of motion
A. When a motion is made it shall be stated by the presiding officer or, at the discretion of the presiding officer, by the Secretary. If the motion is in writing, it shall be read aloud by the Secretary before it is debated.
B. No motion need be seconded.
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
What it means is there is no need to vote to "lay on table". The presiding officer decides to "lay on table"
Rule 11.1. Statement of motion
A. When a motion is made it shall be stated by the presiding officer or, at the discretion of the presiding officer, by the Secretary. If the motion is in writing, it shall be read aloud by the Secretary before it is debated.
B. No motion need be seconded.
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
What it means is there is no need to vote to "lay on table". The presiding officer decides to "lay on table"
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Jaime
09-12 02:13 PM
You still have time to arrange your plans and attend! Here�s why you should come:
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
cagedcactus
10-10 12:38 PM
There are many here (on IV forums) who question if Lobbying and Grassroots efforts really works. It they didn't, we wouldn't be here!
Read the following article on early Indian Immigrants and their miserable conditions before 1946. How they overcame the racist/xenophobic labor groups opposition through lobbying and grassroots efforts and became citizens.
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082006/citizen.htm
Read the article, become motivated, join MI chapter. Together we shall prevail
True stuff...
Those who question the lobbying and efforts are not really questioning it. They are actually saying that lets do nothing and let system figure it out itself. well, cant blame them. But we will move forward. We will do everything we can at local level to make sure that we are heard.
Read the following article on early Indian Immigrants and their miserable conditions before 1946. How they overcame the racist/xenophobic labor groups opposition through lobbying and grassroots efforts and became citizens.
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082006/citizen.htm
Read the article, become motivated, join MI chapter. Together we shall prevail
True stuff...
Those who question the lobbying and efforts are not really questioning it. They are actually saying that lets do nothing and let system figure it out itself. well, cant blame them. But we will move forward. We will do everything we can at local level to make sure that we are heard.
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rinkurazdan
05-31 11:01 AM
You are right but unfortunately history has thought us that when it comes down to GC versus H1b everybody is willing to throw GC under the bus to get H1b provisions.
This current bill is no exception, h1 increased from 65,000 to 115000 with triggers to increse it to 185000, but no provisions for green cards.
a exclusive emendment with GC will be the only way out. nobody is offering such amendment and if somebody offers it might be ordered to lie on table.
I think industry and their senators alike will be happy with quota increases...waht they will try to strike out is the extra fees....($5000 now) and also the retrictions on recruitment / displacement policy, which will make H1B useless as it will take umpteen number of months to get an H1B approved.
This ammdt is still difficult to pass
BTW, I cannot find the text of this ammndt on Thomas.
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:26:./temp/~bdp3oO::|/bss/d110query.html|
This current bill is no exception, h1 increased from 65,000 to 115000 with triggers to increse it to 185000, but no provisions for green cards.
a exclusive emendment with GC will be the only way out. nobody is offering such amendment and if somebody offers it might be ordered to lie on table.
I think industry and their senators alike will be happy with quota increases...waht they will try to strike out is the extra fees....($5000 now) and also the retrictions on recruitment / displacement policy, which will make H1B useless as it will take umpteen number of months to get an H1B approved.
This ammdt is still difficult to pass
BTW, I cannot find the text of this ammndt on Thomas.
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:26:./temp/~bdp3oO::|/bss/d110query.html|
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pmat
06-10 02:25 PM
Found this information in the current bulletin:
Seems like lot of predictions made by gurus in the other thread might come true.
VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED CATEGORIES
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off dates which will be reached by the end of FY-2010 are as follows:
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
China and India: March or April 2006
Employment Third:
Worldwide: June through September 2004
China: October through December 2003
India: February 2002
Mexico: Unavailable
Philippines: June through September 2004
Employment Fourth:
Worldwide: It may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for September.
Employment Fifth: Current
Seems like lot of predictions made by gurus in the other thread might come true.
VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED CATEGORIES
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off dates which will be reached by the end of FY-2010 are as follows:
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
China and India: March or April 2006
Employment Third:
Worldwide: June through September 2004
China: October through December 2003
India: February 2002
Mexico: Unavailable
Philippines: June through September 2004
Employment Fourth:
Worldwide: It may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for September.
Employment Fifth: Current
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kumar1
04-17 10:33 AM
HP, Cisco, TCS, Deloitte, IBM, SAP, ORCL....I am going to add one more so called big firm BEARINGPOINT (formerly known as KPMG consulting).
I know that Fragomen specifically guides and runs the visa/GC related matters of Bearingpoint. They charge 10,000 dollars for a GC case and give clear cut instrucation to Bearingpoint that do not file GC till the very last moment. I left Bearingpoint (16000+ employees and offices in 43 countries...sounds great doesn't it?) because of my immigration issues caused by Fragomen. I joined a desi consulting company with 2 employess. This desi company manager took my GC file in his hand, drove to attorney office and asked him to file it ASAP. No waiting period, no nothing....
Big corporation + Fragomen is a deadly/toxic combination. Stay away from it if you can.
I know that Fragomen specifically guides and runs the visa/GC related matters of Bearingpoint. They charge 10,000 dollars for a GC case and give clear cut instrucation to Bearingpoint that do not file GC till the very last moment. I left Bearingpoint (16000+ employees and offices in 43 countries...sounds great doesn't it?) because of my immigration issues caused by Fragomen. I joined a desi consulting company with 2 employess. This desi company manager took my GC file in his hand, drove to attorney office and asked him to file it ASAP. No waiting period, no nothing....
Big corporation + Fragomen is a deadly/toxic combination. Stay away from it if you can.
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m306m
05-19 04:15 PM
I cannot attend the DC rally because of family issues but I can contribute. Here is my $200. I request that someone keep a running total of how much has been collected so far for this drive.
Additionally I will contribute $100 when we hit the first $10,000. Please IM me.
Go IV!
Here are the transaction details
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #53L64693R0456694L)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
May 19, 2010 Payment For Immigration Voice Completed ... -$200.00 USD
Business Name:
Immigration Voice
Email:
donations@immigrationvoice.org
Business Contact Information
Customer Service URL: ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.immigrationvoice.org)
Customer Service Email: donations@immigrationvoice.org
Customer Service Phone: 850-391-4966
Additionally I will contribute $100 when we hit the first $10,000. Please IM me.
Go IV!
Here are the transaction details
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #53L64693R0456694L)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
May 19, 2010 Payment For Immigration Voice Completed ... -$200.00 USD
Business Name:
Immigration Voice
Email:
donations@immigrationvoice.org
Business Contact Information
Customer Service URL: ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.immigrationvoice.org)
Customer Service Email: donations@immigrationvoice.org
Customer Service Phone: 850-391-4966
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JazzByTheBay
09-21 06:55 PM
Nice catch nfinity.... this is hilarious!
Ajobha, now I'm really curious about what changed! The contrast between the 2 messages couldn't have been more striking.... :D
jazz
Here is a message from Ajoba regarding the San Jose rally....
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
Ajobha, now I'm really curious about what changed! The contrast between the 2 messages couldn't have been more striking.... :D
jazz
Here is a message from Ajoba regarding the San Jose rally....
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
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coopheal
05-20 08:01 AM
Please contribute for IV's causes (which are your causes as well)
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Hermione
09-27 01:49 PM
That is actually not true. Approval will not become quicker if speed is not improved.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
Could you please translate this into layman's English? What you appear to be saying is that speed (CIS efficiency) is more important than number (quotas), but your expample confirms that cases are stuck because of number unavailability (quotas), not because of CIS inefficiency. You got your own green card in three months, did not you? That tells me that CIS darn well capable of processing applications in a timely manner.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
Could you please translate this into layman's English? What you appear to be saying is that speed (CIS efficiency) is more important than number (quotas), but your expample confirms that cases are stuck because of number unavailability (quotas), not because of CIS inefficiency. You got your own green card in three months, did not you? That tells me that CIS darn well capable of processing applications in a timely manner.
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akhilmahajan
02-25 11:21 PM
with the help of MA volunteers, was able to collect 27 more letters.
Mailed to the president today, and will be mailing IV soon.
GO IV GO.
TOGEHTER WE CAN.
Mailed to the president today, and will be mailing IV soon.
GO IV GO.
TOGEHTER WE CAN.
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GC Khichdi
07-17 04:17 PM
If anyone knows the history, this is pretty much happenned to Family based visas. 20 years ago, it was as easy as 1-2-3 and ppl use to get GCs in matter of months or 1-2 years. INS realized this and they started imposing processing dates and delays and what not and as it stands today, it takes about 10 years to get GC on family based.
They may have same plan in mind that instead of paying unemployment to PRs and Citizens, let's kick out the smart ppl who are stealing all the jobs and now their country is taking some of our businesses too.
They may have same plan in mind that instead of paying unemployment to PRs and Citizens, let's kick out the smart ppl who are stealing all the jobs and now their country is taking some of our businesses too.
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Madhuri
08-25 05:31 PM
One of my friend is currently working for a company A. He has got offer from a reputed university and is interested in transferring his H1. The question is,
1> can he transfer his H1 from a 'for-profit' to a 'non-profit'?
2> In future if he decided to work again for a 'for-profit', can he transfer his H1 from 'non-profit' to 'for-profit' without being counted against the cap?
Gurus please share your knowledge on this.
TIA,
Madhuri
1> can he transfer his H1 from a 'for-profit' to a 'non-profit'?
2> In future if he decided to work again for a 'for-profit', can he transfer his H1 from 'non-profit' to 'for-profit' without being counted against the cap?
Gurus please share your knowledge on this.
TIA,
Madhuri
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mrajatish
07-17 06:40 PM
I think SKIL/CIR etc are all carrots for the "would be" immigrants to slog their ass off - ultimately, American Congress will only do something if
A. There is enough pressure from Business community to enact a change.
B. Persistent efforts by organization like Immigration Voice in educating the lawmakers and using lobbyists like QG&A to get our voices heard.
We have a legitimate cause but we have to use the right "modus operandi". We need each of the members of IV to go back and talk to their HR/Legal/Managers/VPs/CIOs etc to ensure that our voices are heard. Immigration Voice needs corporate backing and you can help here - make your employers aware of Immigration Voice and retrogression. Ask your employers to contact the Congressmen and Senators of your state on your behalf.
We need a legislative reform and the only way to achieve it is to make your voices heard and your opinion count.
A. There is enough pressure from Business community to enact a change.
B. Persistent efforts by organization like Immigration Voice in educating the lawmakers and using lobbyists like QG&A to get our voices heard.
We have a legitimate cause but we have to use the right "modus operandi". We need each of the members of IV to go back and talk to their HR/Legal/Managers/VPs/CIOs etc to ensure that our voices are heard. Immigration Voice needs corporate backing and you can help here - make your employers aware of Immigration Voice and retrogression. Ask your employers to contact the Congressmen and Senators of your state on your behalf.
We need a legislative reform and the only way to achieve it is to make your voices heard and your opinion count.
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franklin
09-19 01:07 AM
That is the only option i had open to me...
I am a plumber, no degree, but equivalent qualifications.. dont qualify for H1B, and once you have shown perminat intent you carnt go back to a temp visa..so catch 22 for me.. i had to go out there get a job, and then start the process. And yes my future employer has been very understanding about it. they have been waiting for me for 2 years so far...so am anxious to say the least to get out there.
Strange thing is, in the midst of all this, i have had my fee bill, paid that, and now my attorny has received my DS230, and sent that back yesterday?? so god knows what is happening. even though the dates arnt current.???
i give up trying to figure out what is going on over there. im hoping they will just finish up with it and send it to the embassy in london, so at least it will all be here even if it just sitting here waiting for a number to become available.
My be the november bulitin will show some kind of movment?
lets all hope so.
Yes, a plumber occupation would not qualify as a Highly Skilled occupation, it isn't on the list of in demand occupations. So - are you EB3 category? You need at least a 3 year degree for that (or if you don't have a degree, you need 3 years of experience for each year missing - so 9 years experience - depending on your unspecified "equivalent qualifications" - NVQ may or may not count, but I'm only guessing that this is what you have)
If you've been waiting 2 years, you have roughly 4 more years to wait imo, but to be honest, based on the info i have, I have doubts whether it would be feasible. If you can't get an H1B because your job wasn't applicable, getting an EB green card will be very tough.
I doubt Nov will have much movement. The ONLY reason for the movement earlier this year was total miscommunication between different governmental agencies, it is unlikely that this will happen again soon. Unused visa rush only happens at the end of the visa year, not the beginning.
I am a plumber, no degree, but equivalent qualifications.. dont qualify for H1B, and once you have shown perminat intent you carnt go back to a temp visa..so catch 22 for me.. i had to go out there get a job, and then start the process. And yes my future employer has been very understanding about it. they have been waiting for me for 2 years so far...so am anxious to say the least to get out there.
Strange thing is, in the midst of all this, i have had my fee bill, paid that, and now my attorny has received my DS230, and sent that back yesterday?? so god knows what is happening. even though the dates arnt current.???
i give up trying to figure out what is going on over there. im hoping they will just finish up with it and send it to the embassy in london, so at least it will all be here even if it just sitting here waiting for a number to become available.
My be the november bulitin will show some kind of movment?
lets all hope so.
Yes, a plumber occupation would not qualify as a Highly Skilled occupation, it isn't on the list of in demand occupations. So - are you EB3 category? You need at least a 3 year degree for that (or if you don't have a degree, you need 3 years of experience for each year missing - so 9 years experience - depending on your unspecified "equivalent qualifications" - NVQ may or may not count, but I'm only guessing that this is what you have)
If you've been waiting 2 years, you have roughly 4 more years to wait imo, but to be honest, based on the info i have, I have doubts whether it would be feasible. If you can't get an H1B because your job wasn't applicable, getting an EB green card will be very tough.
I doubt Nov will have much movement. The ONLY reason for the movement earlier this year was total miscommunication between different governmental agencies, it is unlikely that this will happen again soon. Unused visa rush only happens at the end of the visa year, not the beginning.
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nyte_crawler
04-10 12:29 PM
And this new caste system of the DONOR forum which basically says screw you to everyone who has spent time, money or effort on IV and completely goes against the "Change for fairness and Justice" mumbo jumbo is a step in the right direction, IV needs to give way to an actual movement that actually does something and this DONOR forum concept will certainly go a long way in the marginalization of this site and community.
I completely understand what chaanakya is saying and I have a similar opinion. I understand the concept of "Donor" form and it exclusivity of information if you donate. If I question about the concept, I know I will be put down and if IV wants to move in that direction to reach the goals then so be it. So let me spare you from typing anything against my opinion. The only thing I would want to know is who is the "CORE" of IV now ? I vaguely remember it was up in the website somewhere when I joined in 2006. I don't see it anymore.
I completely understand what chaanakya is saying and I have a similar opinion. I understand the concept of "Donor" form and it exclusivity of information if you donate. If I question about the concept, I know I will be put down and if IV wants to move in that direction to reach the goals then so be it. So let me spare you from typing anything against my opinion. The only thing I would want to know is who is the "CORE" of IV now ? I vaguely remember it was up in the website somewhere when I joined in 2006. I don't see it anymore.
Jaime
09-08 11:23 AM
You still have time! Come on, change your mind and attend the rally! We'll help you with the funds!
grupak
06-23 06:13 PM
We will have to pick it up tomorrow.
Please make the call, it makes a difference.
Please make the call, it makes a difference.
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